[AR Standards Discussion] Wrap up of Program Committee member meeting January 31

Philipp Slusallek slusallek at cs.uni-saarland.de
Thu Feb 3 08:22:05 EST 2011

Hi Jacques,

This sounds extremely interesting indeed. A student tried to get some
sound rendering into 3D a while ago, which was OK but we are not really
the experts on this. It would be great to join forces here. I have
started to look into A2ML but need a bit more time to really understand
the approach. Associating audio with 3D objects and having an audio
renderer to compute the reverberations in a virtual environment would be
just great. We do a lot of realtime ray tracing (which is why our
current demonstrators use that for rendering as well) applying this also
to global lighting simulations and it would be interesting to apply this
also to sound simulations.


Am 02.02.2011 18:08, schrieb jacques lemordant:
> Hi Philipp,
> I was supporting XML3D (against X3D)at the last AR Standards meeting in Seoul.
>> The goal of XML3D is to embed declarative 3D scene descriptions directly
>> into any HTML document via a couple of new HTML elements (just like SVG
>> for 2D in HTML5 today). Essentially, we want to enable any Web developer
>> to easily start using 3D graphics in any project without leaving his/her
>> common programming environment.
> We have the same goal with 3D interactive audio and  have defined an XML format called A2ML for it.
> it's very similar to SVG with embedded SMIL for synchronization.
> Would be nice to put it in HTML5 like with SVG.
> We have an A2ML sound engine running on iOS and an iOS AR browser  with content in HTML5 and A2ML.
> It's based on the webkit and is able to read an XML POIs format
> (So we could probably test XML3D on the iPhone rather easily in the context of an AR application)
> <rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#"
>          xmlns:poap="http://wam.inria.fr/poap/0.1/"
>          xmlns:foaf="http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/">
>          <poap:Poi rdf:ID="GVAjardinDeVille">
>                   <poap:name>Jardin de Ville</poap:name>
>                   <poap:coordinates lat="45.1925890" lon="5.726197" ele="217.861"/>
>                   <foaf:maker rdf:resource="http://wam.inrialpes.fr/rdf/foaf/Audrey-Colbrant.rdf"/>
>                   <poap:update timestamp="2010-11-01T18:17:44Z"/>
>                   <poap:panoramic rdf:resource="./resource/panorama/jardinDeVille.jpg" type="hemispherical"/>
>                   <poap:content doctype="html5" rdf:resource="./resource/content/jardinDeVille.html"/>
>                   <poap:audio rdf:resource="./resource/atmosphere/jardinVilleAtmosphere.mp3"/>
>                    <poap:graphics rdf:resource="./resource/atmosphere/jardinVilleAtmosphere.xml3d"/>
>                   <poap:triggering radius="5.5" />
>                   <poap:visibility radius="4.5" />
>                   <poap:channel category="parc"/>
>          </poap:Poi>
> </rdf:RDF>
>> XML3D has been presented to the W3C at the last TPAC meeting in Lyon and
>> we have been asked to start a W3C Incubator group preparing possible
>> standardization in this area. 
> A2ML was presented at the last TPAC meeting with a live demo of an ARA application( guidance of visually impaired people in Grenoble with a remote console in Lyon)
> We hope to have something like A2ML  standardized one day by the W3C audio working group.
> jacques

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